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		<title>By: Jonathan Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ lalo,

iDialer does the same thing on my phone.  You just have to remember to choose your preferred dialing method before each call.  You can toggle the dialing method by tapping the button with a phone handset icon at the bottom of your iDialer screen.  Then, when you choose a contact to call, it will automatically dial using whatever method you chose.

When you toggle dialing methods, one of the options is &quot;Ask.&quot;  When you choose it, the program will ask you before each call how you want to dial, and you&#039;ll be shown a list of all your dialing methods from which to choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ lalo,</p>
<p>iDialer does the same thing on my phone.  You just have to remember to choose your preferred dialing method before each call.  You can toggle the dialing method by tapping the button with a phone handset icon at the bottom of your iDialer screen.  Then, when you choose a contact to call, it will automatically dial using whatever method you chose.</p>
<p>When you toggle dialing methods, one of the options is &#8220;Ask.&#8221;  When you choose it, the program will ask you before each call how you want to dial, and you&#8217;ll be shown a list of all your dialing methods from which to choose.</p>
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		<title>By: lalo</title>
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		<dc:creator>lalo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>found a problem using the Dialer`s contact list. I soon I as i selected a contact from the list the phone will start dialing using my cell line. It would not give me i chance to select which service i wanted to use. I created another Dialer Config cab and changed Service 1 settings with Service 2 settings. I used on service 1 google call back with the my cell phone number, Service 2 i used standard phone and Service 3 with Gizmo and my gizmo number. This way i can have the dialer call Google voice first (and not my cell phone line) as soon as i select a contact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>found a problem using the Dialer`s contact list. I soon I as i selected a contact from the list the phone will start dialing using my cell line. It would not give me i chance to select which service i wanted to use. I created another Dialer Config cab and changed Service 1 settings with Service 2 settings. I used on service 1 google call back with the my cell phone number, Service 2 i used standard phone and Service 3 with Gizmo and my gizmo number. This way i can have the dialer call Google voice first (and not my cell phone line) as soon as i select a contact.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind.  Chrome wasn&#039;t allowing configuration but Firefox seems to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind.  Chrome wasn&#8217;t allowing configuration but Firefox seems to.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m having trouble setting up iDialer.  I can choose options from the drop down menus, but there is no place for me to choose a title or a phone number.  Is there another way to set it up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having trouble setting up iDialer.  I can choose options from the drop down menus, but there is no place for me to choose a title or a phone number.  Is there another way to set it up?</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: I just chatted with a Sprint customer service agent and asked if VOIP traffic was allowed.  She just said, &quot;As long as it&#039;s data.&quot;

I think I&#039;ll sign up with the WinMo phone first to see if it will work for my wife.  If so I&#039;ll get the Android for myself on a second contract.  If it doesn&#039;t work I&#039;m only on one contract and can pay the restocking fee for the Android for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: I just chatted with a Sprint customer service agent and asked if VOIP traffic was allowed.  She just said, &#8220;As long as it&#8217;s data.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll sign up with the WinMo phone first to see if it will work for my wife.  If so I&#8217;ll get the Android for myself on a second contract.  If it doesn&#8217;t work I&#8217;m only on one contract and can pay the restocking fee for the Android for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the quick reply and the info about driving.  I see forums where people mention using Skype over 3G on Sprint with no problems.  If worse comes to worst I&#039;ll end up with a nice phone and a cheap unlimited data plan for tethering.  I&#039;ll keep you posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the quick reply and the info about driving.  I see forums where people mention using Skype over 3G on Sprint with no problems.  If worse comes to worst I&#8217;ll end up with a nice phone and a cheap unlimited data plan for tethering.  I&#8217;ll keep you posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Craig,

Fring works over 3G and does not use voice minutes.  The question for you is whether Sprint allows VoIP over 3G.  Some carriers have been known to restrict that.  Also, if you plan to use VoIP while driving, you may find that you lose the signal more often than you would with a voice connection.  I&#039;ve been told that data connections don&#039;t transition seamlessly between towers the way voice connections do.

You might want to ask about those things over at the DSLReports.com forums ( http://www.dslreports.com )

I&#039;m anxious to hear how this works out for you.  Please keep us posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Craig,</p>
<p>Fring works over 3G and does not use voice minutes.  The question for you is whether Sprint allows VoIP over 3G.  Some carriers have been known to restrict that.  Also, if you plan to use VoIP while driving, you may find that you lose the signal more often than you would with a voice connection.  I&#8217;ve been told that data connections don&#8217;t transition seamlessly between towers the way voice connections do.</p>
<p>You might want to ask about those things over at the DSLReports.com forums ( <a href="http://www.dslreports.com"  rel="nofollow">http://www.dslreports.com</a> )</p>
<p>I&#8217;m anxious to hear how this works out for you.  Please keep us posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, sorry to come in late, but I found a great deal on a data-only plan.  I&#039;m planning to get myself an Android phone and use Guava (same principle as your write-up), but my wife doesn&#039;t want to spend as much and I&#039;m looking at the Samsung ACE for her.  It doesn&#039;t have WiFi and runs Windows Mobile 6.  You mentioned that this set-up works over WiFi and should work over 3G.  The plan is Sprint and not AT&amp;T, and I just want to make sure we can get voice going on her phone before I invest in a 2 year contract.  

Can you confirm that you&#039;re not using voice minutes while not on WiFi with your method?  Thanks so much.  I appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, sorry to come in late, but I found a great deal on a data-only plan.  I&#8217;m planning to get myself an Android phone and use Guava (same principle as your write-up), but my wife doesn&#8217;t want to spend as much and I&#8217;m looking at the Samsung ACE for her.  It doesn&#8217;t have WiFi and runs Windows Mobile 6.  You mentioned that this set-up works over WiFi and should work over 3G.  The plan is Sprint and not AT&amp;T, and I just want to make sure we can get voice going on her phone before I invest in a 2 year contract.  </p>
<p>Can you confirm that you&#8217;re not using voice minutes while not on WiFi with your method?  Thanks so much.  I appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dp,

If I understand correctly, you are able to answer incoming Google Voice calls using Fring, but are unable to dial out using iDialer.

Without physical access to your setup it&#039;s difficult to troubleshot, but here are a couple of ideas that may help.  Or not.

1)  Issues have been reported with placing Gizmo5 calls using the Google Voice mobile interface.  I think iDialer relies on the mobile interface, so that could explain your problem.  I recommend you try setting up a free SipGate.com number and try using that in place of your Gizmo5 number.  SipGate gives you SIP credentials you can enter into Fring.  In fact, now that Gizmo5 is no longer accepting new signups, I recommend SipGate as an alternative.  I&#039;ll be posting updated instructions when I get some time.

If that fails, here are a few other things you could try:

1)  Are you connected to a wifi network or to your carrier&#039;s data network?  You might try switching off your data connection and connecting to a wifi network to see if there is any difference.  Or, if you are trying to run this from a wifi network, try doing it over your carrier&#039;s data connection.

2)  Do you know what version of Windows Mobile you are running?  I have read that Windows Mobile Standard doesn&#039;t play well with non-standard dialers.  My Tilt 2 runs Windows Mobile Professional, so I don&#039;t have that problem.  I&#039;m not sure how to get around that other than just using the Google Voice mobile site: http://www.google.com/mobile/voice/

3)  You mentioned that you used your Gizmo5 number as the callback number.  You might want to try repeating the configuration process, just to make sure all your usernames, passwords, and phone numbers are entered correctly.  With this much stuff to enter, it&#039;s easy to mistype a digit or two.  Make sure you include the entire Gizmo number, starting with &quot;1747.&quot;  See this page: http://www.supware.net/iDialer/config/ and Part Four Step 3 for instructions.

When you reconfigure, try including a standard cell phone option (Standard Phone in the drop-down menu), a Google Voice calling card option, and a Google Voice callback to your cell phone number.  Then try placing cell calls using these options to see if they work.

&gt;&gt;Only step I could not follow was the one for gizmo5 where you say go to “Google Voice” tab. That tab does not exist in gizmo5 anymore. Seems like things have been altered/changed since google bought gizmo5.

I don&#039;t think this step is necessary anymore.  I&#039;ll update the tutorial accordingly.

&gt;&gt;Interestingly enough when I use firefox from my pc to call using Google, it does not work. The same works fine with IE. So I am able to initiate the call with my PC. Next I tried the same with my HTC device using opera and IE. The callback feature did not work. After trying all this, an incoming call works fine via Fring.

Issues have been reported with the mobile interface and Gizmo5 numbers as mentioned above.  I&#039;m not sure why Firefox wouldn&#039;t work though.

Good luck, and feel free to post another comment with your results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dp,</p>
<p>If I understand correctly, you are able to answer incoming Google Voice calls using Fring, but are unable to dial out using iDialer.</p>
<p>Without physical access to your setup it&#8217;s difficult to troubleshot, but here are a couple of ideas that may help.  Or not.</p>
<p>1)  Issues have been reported with placing Gizmo5 calls using the Google Voice mobile interface.  I think iDialer relies on the mobile interface, so that could explain your problem.  I recommend you try setting up a free SipGate.com number and try using that in place of your Gizmo5 number.  SipGate gives you SIP credentials you can enter into Fring.  In fact, now that Gizmo5 is no longer accepting new signups, I recommend SipGate as an alternative.  I&#8217;ll be posting updated instructions when I get some time.</p>
<p>If that fails, here are a few other things you could try:</p>
<p>1)  Are you connected to a wifi network or to your carrier&#8217;s data network?  You might try switching off your data connection and connecting to a wifi network to see if there is any difference.  Or, if you are trying to run this from a wifi network, try doing it over your carrier&#8217;s data connection.</p>
<p>2)  Do you know what version of Windows Mobile you are running?  I have read that Windows Mobile Standard doesn&#8217;t play well with non-standard dialers.  My Tilt 2 runs Windows Mobile Professional, so I don&#8217;t have that problem.  I&#8217;m not sure how to get around that other than just using the Google Voice mobile site: <a href="http://www.google.com/mobile/voice/"  rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/mobile/voice/</a></p>
<p>3)  You mentioned that you used your Gizmo5 number as the callback number.  You might want to try repeating the configuration process, just to make sure all your usernames, passwords, and phone numbers are entered correctly.  With this much stuff to enter, it&#8217;s easy to mistype a digit or two.  Make sure you include the entire Gizmo number, starting with &#8220;1747.&#8221;  See this page: <a href="http://www.supware.net/iDialer/config/"  rel="nofollow">http://www.supware.net/iDialer/config/</a> and Part Four Step 3 for instructions.</p>
<p>When you reconfigure, try including a standard cell phone option (Standard Phone in the drop-down menu), a Google Voice calling card option, and a Google Voice callback to your cell phone number.  Then try placing cell calls using these options to see if they work.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Only step I could not follow was the one for gizmo5 where you say go to “Google Voice” tab. That tab does not exist in gizmo5 anymore. Seems like things have been altered/changed since google bought gizmo5.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this step is necessary anymore.  I&#8217;ll update the tutorial accordingly.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Interestingly enough when I use firefox from my pc to call using Google, it does not work. The same works fine with IE. So I am able to initiate the call with my PC. Next I tried the same with my HTC device using opera and IE. The callback feature did not work. After trying all this, an incoming call works fine via Fring.</p>
<p>Issues have been reported with the mobile interface and Gizmo5 numbers as mentioned above.  I&#8217;m not sure why Firefox wouldn&#8217;t work though.</p>
<p>Good luck, and feel free to post another comment with your results.</p>
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		<title>By: dp</title>
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		<dc:creator>dp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan, this was a great post.  I&#039;ve got a HTC imagio.  Trying to set that up as a wifi voip device.

Have it working for the incoming calls.  Cant seem to get the outgoing working via iDialer.

Only step I could not follow was the one for gizmo5 where you say go to &quot;Google Voice&quot; tab.  That tab does not exist in gizmo5 anymore.  Seems like things have been altered/changed since google bought gizmo5.

I have iDialer installed, in the config I used the gizmo5 # in the call back as per the instructions.  

Interestingly enough when I use firefox from my pc to call using Google, it does not work.  The same works fine with IE.  So I am able to initiate the call with my PC.  Next I tried the same with my HTC device using opera and IE.  The callback feature did not work.  After trying all this, an incoming call works fine via Fring.

Any other tips that can help me troubleshoot this?

thanks in advanced,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, this was a great post.  I&#8217;ve got a HTC imagio.  Trying to set that up as a wifi voip device.</p>
<p>Have it working for the incoming calls.  Cant seem to get the outgoing working via iDialer.</p>
<p>Only step I could not follow was the one for gizmo5 where you say go to &#8220;Google Voice&#8221; tab.  That tab does not exist in gizmo5 anymore.  Seems like things have been altered/changed since google bought gizmo5.</p>
<p>I have iDialer installed, in the config I used the gizmo5 # in the call back as per the instructions.  </p>
<p>Interestingly enough when I use firefox from my pc to call using Google, it does not work.  The same works fine with IE.  So I am able to initiate the call with my PC.  Next I tried the same with my HTC device using opera and IE.  The callback feature did not work.  After trying all this, an incoming call works fine via Fring.</p>
<p>Any other tips that can help me troubleshoot this?</p>
<p>thanks in advanced,</p>
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